Session Start: Fri Feb 22 19:40:56 2002

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[21:02] <Jean-Pierre> hellmo, thomas!

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[21:15] <merantha> Hello JP

[21:16] <Jean-Pierre> hello Merantha!

[21:16] <merantha> What is the topic today?

[21:16] <Jean-Pierre> how are you??e

[21:16] <merantha> I am doing great, and you?

[21:16] *** Jean-Pierre changes topic to 'Alsace - Elsass - Bier - choucroute!_'

[21:16] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[21:16] <Jean-Pierre> I am ok !

[21:17] <Jean-Pierre> I am eating saussiges and good alsatian beer!

[21:17] <Jean-Pierre> ;)

[21:17] <merantha> Oh, I forgot, this is your dinner time. Enjoy.

[21:17] <Jean-Pierre> :)

[21:18] <Jean-Pierre> do u enjoy roll's book?

[21:18] <merantha> Yes, I am really please with it!

[21:18] <Jean-Pierre> :)

[21:18] <Jean-Pierre> the last!

[21:18] <Jean-Pierre> :)

[21:18] <Jean-Pierre> lol

[21:19] <Jean-Pierre> prbably u can write claude roll to thank him :)

[21:19] <merantha> How would i do that?

[21:19] <Jean-Pierre> he has e-mail address

[21:20] <merantha> Do you have it?

[21:20] <Jean-Pierre> yes

[21:20] <Jean-Pierre> :)

[21:20] <Jean-Pierre> wait

[21:21] <Jean-Pierre> claude.roll@evc.net

[21:21] <merantha> I was glad to learn the Stradonitz or SOSA numbering system

[21:22] <Jean-Pierre> he is president of my association :)

[21:22] <merantha> but I think it is not too practical after about 8 generations.

[21:22] <Jean-Pierre> :)

[21:23] <Jean-Pierre> computer make all automatic ;)

[21:23] <merantha> The numbers get too big.

[21:24] <Jean-Pierre> don't u have problem in french?

[21:24] <Jean-Pierre> is it ok?

[21:25] <merantha> No, with the help of a couple of dictionarys.

[21:25] <merantha> I am getting along fine.

[21:25] <Jean-Pierre> the interest of this book is that Claude roll is very Clear in explanations

[21:25] <Jean-Pierre> and very pedagogis

[21:25] <Jean-Pierre> t

[21:26] <merantha> Yes, his explanations are very clear.

[21:26] <merantha> But I cant figure out how to number the

[21:26] <Jean-Pierre> I think h is a brilliant man

[21:26] <merantha> pedigree charts after the 8th generation. He stops there.

[21:27] <merantha> There must be some kind of a formula for the charts,

[21:27] <merantha> like there is with the persons on the charts,

[21:27] <merantha> such as double the number each generation.

[21:27] <merantha> There must also be a way to number the charts

[21:28] <merantha> if you only go further on a few lines.

[21:29] <merantha> Chapter 5, page 81.

[21:30] <Jean-Pierre> :) iaml searching it

[21:31] <Jean-Pierre> wait i have toforget my saussages!

[21:31] <Jean-Pierre> and wash my hands!

[21:32] <merantha> When I get back about 15 generations the persons

[21:32] <merantha> are numbered, for example, 102400.

[21:32] <Jean-Pierre> yes

[21:33] <Jean-Pierre> right not so easy

[21:33] <Jean-Pierre> but for ascneding it's practice anyway

[21:33] <merantha> Go back a few more generations and you get 1638400!

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[21:33] <Jean-Pierre> hello val!!!

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[21:34] <merantha> Hi valorie!

[21:34] <Jean-Pierre> Merantha that's why they invented software ... but some ppl make it all this way

[21:34] <Jean-Pierre> without computer

[21:34] <Jean-Pierre> and it's useful

[21:35] <Jean-Pierre> I have some friend tha make like that

[21:35] <Jean-Pierre> and very good in Archive too

[21:35] <Jean-Pierre> if u haven't

[21:35] <Jean-Pierre> Notebook

[21:36] <Jean-Pierre> to have such document

[21:36] <Jean-Pierre> How are u Val!:)

[21:36] <valorie> hi -- great!

[21:36] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[21:36] <Jean-Pierre> Our Merantha enjoy her book

[21:36] <Jean-Pierre> enjoys

[21:36] <Jean-Pierre> oupd

[21:37] <Jean-Pierre> oups

[21:37] <valorie> you are breathless today, JP!

[21:37] <Jean-Pierre> I just finished my saussages with alsatian beer!

[21:37] <merantha> He's hungry, I have been keeping him from his saugates.

[21:38] <merantha> Saugages.

[21:38] <Jean-Pierre> lol no:-)

[21:38] <merantha> Sausages.

[21:38] <Jean-Pierre> with beer:))

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[21:39] <Dan> hi !!

[21:40] <Dan> no many people this evenning, sorry this day...

[21:40] <merantha> Hi Dan!

[21:40] <Jean-Pierre> I am working on new Reference Database I propose following fields for research : Author, title, kind of source( digital, book, other) , editor, place we can find it( library or bookshop)

[21:40] <Jean-Pierre> hello Dan!

[21:40] <merantha> JP, my Fiery Hot Pepper Bread is just coming

[21:40] <Jean-Pierre> How are u???

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[21:41] <merantha> out of the oven. How would that go with your sausages?

[21:41] <Jean-Pierre> hello Suzan!

[21:41] <Dan> well thanks !

[21:41] <sdrescher> Hello all

[21:41] <Dan> hi Suzan !

[21:41] <Jean-Pierre> Merantha certainly!

[21:41] <merantha> Hi suzan.

[21:41] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[21:41] <Jean-Pierre> How are u???

[21:41] <sdrescher> tired

[21:41] <sdrescher> trying to catch up

[21:42] <sdrescher> after being gone

[21:42] <sdrescher> how r u?

[21:43] <Jean-Pierre> Iam ok just finished my dinner:-)

[21:43] <sdrescher> choucroute??

[21:43] <Jean-Pierre> Saussages with alsatian beer!

[21:43] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[21:43] <sdrescher> cool

[21:43] <Jean-Pierre> and Choucroute

[21:44] <Jean-Pierre> !

[21:44] <Jean-Pierre> and Mustard :-)

[21:44] <Jean-Pierre> Daniel yesterday I was

[21:44] <Jean-Pierre> in the CGA reunion

[21:45] <Jean-Pierre> meeting

[21:45] <Jean-Pierre> monthly meeting

[21:45] <Jean-Pierre> I talked with Mr Hausknech

[21:45] <Jean-Pierre> I talked with Mr Hausknecht

[21:45] <Jean-Pierre> He is from Saint-Germain en laye

[21:45] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[21:45] <Jean-Pierre> not very far from Poissy

[21:46] <Jean-Pierre> I suggest that we could have a dinner all

[21:46] <Jean-Pierre> in Poissy ?

[21:46] <Jean-Pierre> Would u be agree?

[21:46] <Dan> just take a look at Alsabase site...most maps are available now - click on central image in the homepage

[21:46] <Jean-Pierre> Mr Hausknecht had all his youth in Monswiller

[21:46] <Dan> oups, sorry JP

[21:47] <Jean-Pierre> my Origin village

[21:47] <Dan> Yes, of course !!

[21:47] <Jean-Pierre> ---->>> www.alsabase.net

[21:47] <Jean-Pierre> have a look

[21:47] <Jean-Pierre> !

[21:47] <Dan> I tried to go to the meeting too

[21:47] <Jean-Pierre> we only were 3 for dinner

[21:47] <Jean-Pierre> 8

[21:47] <Jean-Pierre> :)

[21:47] <Jean-Pierre> sorry

[21:47] <Dan> but I have no car for 3 days (speed change broke...)

[21:47] <Jean-Pierre> but it was great

[21:48] <Dan> how much ?

[21:48] <Jean-Pierre> poor dan :(

[21:48] <Jean-Pierre> yes

[21:48] <Dan> 3 or 8

[21:48] <Jean-Pierre> 8 :-)

[21:48] <Dan> ok

[21:48] <Jean-Pierre> soory

[21:48] <Dan> who was there ?

[21:48] <Jean-Pierre> Mr Weck

[21:48] <Jean-Pierre> Roesser

[21:48] <Jean-Pierre> Mrs Siegwald

[21:48] <Jean-Pierre> Mr Bellet and family

[21:49] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[21:49] <Dan> heiligenstein ?

[21:49] <Jean-Pierre> no

[21:49] <Jean-Pierre> he was in Holiday

[21:49] <Dan> that's why he didn't answer to my mails...

[21:50] <Jean-Pierre> certainly

[21:50] <Jean-Pierre> ;)

[21:50] <Dan> when do you want to diner with Mr HAUSKNECHT ?

[21:50] <Dan> dinner, sorry

[21:51] * Jean-Pierre wish to thank again his Suzan for great research that she made in Wash dc for him :

[21:51] <Jean-Pierre> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jean-pierre.daeschler/source22.htm

[21:52] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[21:52] <sdrescher> did u find much new info??

[21:52] <Jean-Pierre> yep; !

[21:52] <sdrescher> great!

[21:52] <Jean-Pierre> Alain will be crazy :-)

[21:52] <Jean-Pierre> about it

[21:52] <sdrescher> good

[21:52] <sdrescher> lol

[21:52] <Jean-Pierre> Could u explain us more about it

[21:52] <sdrescher> i sent it to him also

[21:53] <Jean-Pierre> how did u consult it

[21:53] <Jean-Pierre> where and so on

[21:53] <sdrescher> at the DAR lbrary

[21:53] <sdrescher> their books and microfilm

[21:53] <sdrescher> i looked at the soundex census

[21:54] <sdrescher> for D-246

[21:54] <sdrescher> doe all DAESCHLER

[21:54] <sdrescher> and DESCHLER

[21:54] <sdrescher> in NY

[21:54] <sdrescher> 1880 and 1900

[21:55] <sdrescher> sundex is so great

[21:55] <sdrescher> soundex

[21:55] <sdrescher> but only certain census years

[21:55] <sdrescher> are soundexed

[21:55] <Jean-Pierre> The Joseph line is this of Lisa;)

[21:55] <sdrescher> and yours too, right??

[21:55] <Jean-Pierre> yes!

[21:55] <Jean-Pierre> and this of Louis too!

[21:56] <sdrescher> yes

[21:56] <sdrescher> do u want full census on anyone??

[21:56] <Jean-Pierre> - She will be happy too ! our Lisa;)

[21:58] <Jean-Pierre> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jean-pierre.daeschler/source24.htm

[21:59] <Jean-Pierre> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jean-pierre.daeschler/sources/monswiller/index1.html

[21:59] <sdrescher> i was glad to do it for the Daeschlers'

[22:00] <Jean-Pierre> :-) Thanks ! I told at the dinner that u are now member of CGA!

[22:00] <sdrescher> there were more than i thot!!

[22:00] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[22:00] <Jean-Pierre> yep I have to find other one that

[22:00] <sdrescher> thatwas nice of u jp

[22:00] <Jean-Pierre> Alain aske me

[22:01] <Jean-Pierre> but from germany

[22:01] <sdrescher> frederich?

[22:02] <sdrescher> i wanted to find theophil

[22:02] <Jean-Pierre> Johan Friedrich de la branche de Langenaltheim né en 1844

[22:02] <Jean-Pierre> yep

[22:02] <Jean-Pierre> born in 1844

[22:02] <sdrescher> but he may have gone to canada

[22:03] <Jean-Pierre> in Langenaltheim

[22:03] <Jean-Pierre> he gave up his family

[22:03] <Jean-Pierre> to go to the USA

[22:03] <Jean-Pierre> :(

[22:03] <sdrescher> yes, alain e-mailed me the info

[22:03] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[22:03] <Jean-Pierre> ok

[22:03] <sdrescher> but i didn't find him in G to A

[22:03] <Jean-Pierre> ok

[22:04] <Jean-Pierre> Merantha did u receive the Cassini Map that I sent?

[22:04] <sdrescher> tthere was a Fred born in Germany

[22:04] <Jean-Pierre> yep

[22:04] <sdrescher> in the census info i sent u

[22:04] <sdrescher> Buffalo, NY

[22:04] <merantha> I don't think I received it JP, how did you send it?

[22:05] <Jean-Pierre> but it's a Deschler!

[22:05] <Jean-Pierre> ok merantha probably I forgot :(

[22:05] <Jean-Pierre> I will watch

[22:06] <sdrescher> u know about the name changes here

[22:06] <Jean-Pierre> I believed I made it for all members

[22:06] <sdrescher> could easily be the same

[22:06] <Jean-Pierre> concerning old map of their places

[22:06] <Jean-Pierre> Suzan :) ...this is a big talk!

[22:06] <Jean-Pierre> ;)

[22:07] <sdrescher> what?

[22:09] <Jean-Pierre> concerning Deschler and Daeschler

[22:09] <Jean-Pierre> !

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[22:09] <sdrescher> Hi Jan

[22:09] <Jan> hi all

[22:09] <merantha> Hi Jan

[22:10] <Jean-Pierre> hello Jan!!!

[22:10] <Jean-Pierre> Meranth I am extracting for u old map of Hunspach ok;)

[22:11] <merantha> OK!

[22:12] <Dan> hi Jan !

[22:13] <merantha> JP, you put a link on my page, but it does not work.

[22:14] <Jean-Pierre> :(

[22:14] <Jean-Pierre> Dan could u talk a liitle about ur map on www.alsabase.com

[22:14] <Jean-Pierre> I am making map for Merantha

[22:14] <Jean-Pierre> during this time

[22:15] <Jean-Pierre> please :)

[22:15] <Dan> ok

[22:15] <merantha> Dan, I have just been looking at alsabase.

[22:16] <merantha> I guess I don't know how to get the maps.

[22:16] <Dan> ok

[22:16] <Dan> click on central image

[22:16] <merantha> All I get is lists of places and lists of names.

[22:16] <Jean-Pierre> ( merantha I am making it for u and sed by e-mail)

[22:16] <Jean-Pierre> ;)

[22:16] <Dan> in home page

[22:17] <Dan> are you there ?

[22:17] <merantha> Yes, I have cliked on immage.

[22:18] <Dan> ok, now click on the map of Alsace, below in the page

[22:18] <Dan> bas rhin or

[22:18] <Dan> haut rhin

[22:19] <merantha> OK, now I have maps of Bas-Rhin

[22:19] <Dan> good !

[22:20] <Dan> then click on an area

[22:20] <Dan> it is calles "canton"

[22:20] <Dan> called...

[22:20] <Dan> the canton is an administrative organization

[22:21] <merantha> Ok, I clicked on the canton and now I have the parishes? Great!

[22:21] <Dan> which groups sevral villages

[22:21] <Dan> then click on an area of any village...

[22:22] <Dan> well, you can do it for any village

[22:22] <Dan> and any canton of Bas Rhin

[22:22] <sdrescher> Jan i was bragging onyour computer speed

[22:22] <merantha> OK, I clicked on Betschdorf, and I am back to the lists of places and names.

[22:22] <sdrescher> las week in Wasg DC

[22:22] <sdrescher> wash

[22:22] <Jan> lol

[22:23] <Dan> In Haut Rhin, 6 canton aren't available yet...

[22:23] <sdrescher> "sppedy computer-boy!!"

[22:23] <sdrescher> speedy

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[22:27] <Jean-Pierre> hello jojo!

[22:27] <sdrescher> hello jojo

[22:28] <jojo57> bonsoir à tous

[22:28] <Jean-Pierre> Comment ca va?

[22:28] <jojo57> mal

[22:28] <Jean-Pierre> :(

[22:28] <jojo57> c'est la fin des vacances

[22:28] <Jean-Pierre> ok :-)

[22:28] <jojo57> quoi de neuf sur les ondes

[22:28] <Jean-Pierre> ben faut bien reprendre un jour

[22:28] <merantha> Hi, jojo.

[22:29] <Jean-Pierre> ben rien on parlaut de alsabase avec dan

[22:29] <jojo57> lundi pas avant

[22:29] <Jean-Pierre> qi a istaller des nouvelles fonctionnalites

[22:29] <Jean-Pierre> sinon suzan est revenue de Washington

[22:29] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[22:30] <jojo57> j'ai pratiquement passé toute la semaine

[22:30] <jojo57> aux archive 57

[22:30] <Jean-Pierre> ah oué???

[22:30] <Jean-Pierre> et ben

[22:30] <jojo57> entraide et relevé personnels

[22:30] <Jean-Pierre> t'a fait de nouveklles decouvertes?

[22:31] <jojo57> non pas , je fais toujopurs mon releve systématique

[22:31] <Jean-Pierre> ok

[22:31] <Jean-Pierre> je vas ias essayer de faire Monswiller

[22:31] <jojo57> en vue de reconstituer les familles de Bäerenthal

[22:31] <Jean-Pierre> en systematique

[22:32] <Jean-Pierre> j'ai une question d'un lorrain... ! Mais il est des alentour de Nancy un pote a moi

[22:32] <jojo57> j'écoute

[22:33] <Jean-Pierre> il aimerait faire une recherche sur ses Beaumont --- attend je recherche son e-mail

[22:33] <jojo57> JP je n'ai pas beaucoup de temps ce soir

[22:33] <Jean-Pierre> ok

[22:34] <Jean-Pierre> je te transmettrai son e-mail

[22:34] <jojo57> mais j'attends ta question

[22:34] <Jean-Pierre> au cas ou

[22:34] <Jean-Pierre> Concernant les recherches sur les mariages que tu m'as proposées, si c'est

[22:34] <Jean-Pierre> possible, cela concernerait :

[22:34] <Jean-Pierre> - commune de GOVILLER, d'où je suis originaire, et puis, VEZELISE, CREPEY

[22:34] <Jean-Pierre> - famille BEAUMONT, GOUJON, HUSSON, DUPAYS

[22:34] <jojo57> avant de rejoindre ma femme

[22:34] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[22:34] <jojo57> Qu'est ce qu'il faut exactement?

[22:35] <jojo57> tous ces patronymes dans ces villages?

[22:35] <Jean-Pierre> ben si t'a des info par hasard

[22:35] <Jean-Pierre> sur ces patronymes

[22:35] <jojo57> je peux te faire un tirage de tous ces patronymes BMS

[22:35] <Jean-Pierre> ca serait sympa

[22:35] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[22:36] <jojo57> du moins ce qui est dans la base Genlor

[22:36] <Jean-Pierre> Suzan , Big Eric ... asked me to ask jojo about his family

[22:36] <Jean-Pierre> in Lorraine

[22:36] <sdrescher> cool

[22:37] <Jean-Pierre> last thursday we sere with Erik and Jean-Michel in a Fast food from Lorraine in Paris

[22:37] <Jean-Pierre> tu sais jojo on est alle dans un fast food lorrain!

[22:37] <sdrescher> fast food from Lorraine??

[22:37] <jojo57> ça existe

[22:37] <Jean-Pierre> avec mon ami Eric Beaumont

[22:37] <Jean-Pierre> ben oui a cote de la maison de Lorraine

[22:37] <jojo57> qu'est ce qu'on y mange?

[22:37] <Jean-Pierre> on a mange des tourtes lorraine:)

[22:37] <jojo57> Adresse

[22:37] <Jean-Pierre> avec du cote de Toul

[22:38] <Jean-Pierre> Rue de l'echelle

[22:38] <Jean-Pierre> au 4

[22:38] <Jean-Pierre> c'etait tres bbon

[22:38] <Dan> Merantha, Betschdorf is a bit specific

[22:38] <jojo57> a mon prochain passage

[22:38] <Jean-Pierre> ca avec de la poire apres :)

[22:39] <Dan> because you can find 3 villages :

[22:39] <Dan> Oberbetschdorf

[22:39] <jojo57> à Paris probablement pour le demenagement de mon fils

[22:39] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[22:39] <Dan> Niederbetsdorf

[22:39] <Jean-Pierre> t'a besoin d'un coup de main?

[22:39] <jojo57> possible

[22:39] <Dan> which were merged to Betschdorf

[22:39] <Jean-Pierre> ben hesite pas!

[22:39] <Jean-Pierre> a me demander je peux aider aporter

[22:39] <Jean-Pierre> des trucs!

[22:40] <merantha> Ober Betschdorf in middle 1600's

[22:40] <jojo57> il lui reste à négocier avec la DRH de crédit mutuelle

[22:40] <jojo57> pour aller à Strasbourg

[22:40] <Jean-Pierre> ca serait chouette

[22:40] <jojo57> pour nous oui

[22:40] <Dan> try with your mouse to get over the betschdorf area

[22:41] <Dan> I think that the 2 villages merge around 1960-1970

[22:41] <Dan> because in 1949, that was still called oberbetschdorf

[22:41] <Jean-Pierre> Suzan : I hope that erik wish to make his genealogy would be great for him because sometime he is sad :(

[22:42] <merantha> Where would people from Leitersweiler go before Hunspach

[22:42] <Jean-Pierre> eric

[22:42] <Jean-Pierre> the big

[22:42] <merantha> births started in 1702 Dan?

[22:42] <sdrescher> yes it would be good for him

[22:42] <merantha> I find some of them in Oberbetschdorf.

[22:45] <Dan> where is Leitersweiler ?

[22:47] <Jean-Pierre> Merantha I sent u the old map of Betchdorf area too

[22:47] <merantha> Thank you JP! Leitersweiler is near Hoffen

[22:48] <merantha> But Hoffen went to Hunspach too.

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[22:49] <sdrescher> hi Maria!

[22:49] <Maria> Hello Suzan and all

[22:50] <Dan> hi Maria !

[22:50] <jojo57> bonsoir Maria

[22:50] <merantha> Hi Maria!

[22:50] <Maria> jojo bonsoir

[22:50] <Dan> Hoffen and Hunspach were in the same parish

[22:50] <Jean-Pierre> Hi Maria!

[22:50] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[22:50] <Maria> Hello Jean-Pierre

[22:50] <Dan> but JP, I don't Leitersweiler...

[22:51] <Maria> The wind is about to blow us away this afternoon. I hope it don't blow in some snow.

[22:51] <sdrescher> is it cold?

[22:51] <Maria> nope about 50

[22:51] <Jean-Pierre> en dessous de Strundweiler:)

[22:51] <Maria> 50 F

[22:52] <sdrescher> same here, but no wind

[22:52] <Jean-Pierre> a l'est de Hoffen

[22:52] <Jean-Pierre> How much is 50 F ?:)

[22:52] <Maria> Does anyone know about LogoMedia Translate?

[22:53] <Maria> someone on the Alsace list just ask about it.

[22:53] <Jean-Pierre> no

[22:53] <Jean-Pierre> what is it Maria?

[22:53] <merantha> Leiterswiller is between Hoffen and Rittersohffen. Just a little way from Hoffen

[22:53] <Jean-Pierre> yep

[22:54] <Maria> a translation program English to French or what ever language you want.

[22:54] <merantha> Maria, I hope it is better than Bablefish!

[22:55] <Jean-Pierre> I am looking for a good one to install on Alsace Gen Chat page

[22:55] <Jean-Pierre> probably this one of wanadoo

[22:55] <Maria> merantha, I received a page letter typed in German in snail mail, and I am

[22:55] <Maria> working on it in Bablefish.

[22:55] <Maria> it is better than nothing.

[22:56] <sdrescher> maybe Jan can help you, maria?

[22:56] <jojo57> et moi je rame sans traducteur

[22:56] <merantha> Yes, I have used it too.

[22:56] <jojo57> pour déchiffrer l'allemand

[22:56] <Maria> I hear one of the shop teachers in school who is Mexican, can read German. :)

[22:56] <Jean-Pierre> jojo on va essayer de trouver ce qu'il ya de mieux

[22:56] <jojo57> pour tout type de traduction

[22:57] <Jean-Pierre> mais si on demandais a jan

[22:57] <Jean-Pierre> il doit avoir son avis aussi

[22:57] <Maria> I tried to scan it into my computer and cut and paste it into Bablefish but it didn't work.

[22:57] <Jean-Pierre> car Jan est le meilleurs trilingue de l'equipe

[22:57] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[22:58] <Jean-Pierre> Jan????

[22:58] <jojo57> il est l'heure pour moi

[22:58] <Jean-Pierre> ok

[22:58] <Jan> If you want to laugh, use translation software

[22:58] <Jean-Pierre> passe une bonne nuit!

[22:58] <jojo57> je repasse demain

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[22:58] <sdrescher> bonne nuit jojo

[22:58] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[22:58] <Jan> if you want a good translation, use a person who can translate it for you

[22:59] <Jan> sorry, am only half watching here: we're about to get a gold and silver medal soon :)

[22:59] <sdrescher> what event?

[22:59] <Jean-Pierre> really? congrats!

[23:00] <Jan> 10,000 metres speed skating

[23:00] <Jean-Pierre> your favourite sport :)

[23:00] <Jean-Pierre> right?

[23:00] <Jan> to watch, yes <gr>

[23:01] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[23:01] <sdrescher> how is Jacques?

[23:01] <Jean-Pierre> He is in Spain I think:)

[23:02] <Jean-Pierre> for his new office in Madrid

[23:02] <sdrescher> cool

[23:02] <Jean-Pierre> yep :)

[23:02] <Maria> my computer says Bablefish not working right now.

[23:02] <Jean-Pierre> he told me tha he will try to connect the Chat from there

[23:03] <Maria> Merantha have you used that world keyboard?

[23:04] <sdrescher> long race jan!

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[23:05] <Jan> yes, for non-insiders the 10k is as exiting as watching grass grow

[23:05] <Maria> clicked wrong button

[23:06] <sdrescher> like our Nascar!!

[23:06] <valorie> LOL

[23:06] <Jean-Pierre> http://tr.voila.fr/

[23:06] <Jean-Pierre> french translator

[23:06] <Dan> hi Maria

[23:06] <sdrescher> lol

[23:06] <Dan> ....

[23:07] <Maria> all we have on our TV is hockey or curling :(

[23:07] <merantha> Maria, I have not used the world keyboard. What is it?

[23:08] <Jean-Pierre> Curling is great :-)

[23:08] <valorie> that's a neat one, JP -- it has Russian!

[23:08] <Maria> Merantha I type in Altavista, then translation and

[23:08] <merantha> Maria, that is all we get on our TV too. I realy wanted to watch the figure skating events.

[23:08] <Maria> it is a little button to the right of my screen.

[23:08] <sdrescher> NBC has the race on now

[23:08] <Jean-Pierre> Great Brittain won in Curling against swiss in Women Final

[23:09] <Maria> Did you hear the 16 year old girl won the gold in skaing?

[23:09] <Maria> skating.

[23:09] <valorie> oh, she was fabulous

[23:09] <valorie> absolutely wonderful

[23:09] <valorie> flawless

[23:09] <valorie> etc.

[23:09] <Jan> ok. JP'translation site test:

[23:09] <valorie> LOL

[23:09] <Jan> Allemand-Anglaid

[23:09] <Jan> Allemand-Anglais

[23:09] <Maria> maybe in the next 6 months it will be on our tv.

[23:10] <Jan> I entered: _12Kann dieses Programm dieser Staz gut übersetzen?

[23:10] <valorie> I guess they are selling a tape of all of the figure skating

[23:10] <Jan> note the typing error

[23:10] <Jean-Pierre> yep

[23:10] <Jean-Pierre> Satz :)

[23:10] <Jan> translation _12Can this program translate this Staz well?

[23:11] <Jean-Pierre> not so bad!

[23:11] <Jan> and with "Satz"

[23:11] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[23:11] <Jan> _12Can this program this sentence well translate?

[23:11] * Jan thinks not!

[23:11] <Jean-Pierre> :(

[23:11] <Jean-Pierre> hehe

[23:12] <Jean-Pierre> Jan is for Huiman being :-)

[23:12] <Jan> GOLD

[23:12] <Jean-Pierre> Congrats!!!

[23:12] <Jan> and World record

[23:12] <Jan> to Holland

[23:12] <Jan> SILVER

[23:12] <Jan> to Holland

[23:12] <Jan> BRONZE

[23:12] <valorie> wow

[23:12] <Jan> to Japan

[23:12] <Jean-Pierre> Japan?

[23:12] <Jean-Pierre> strange :-)

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[23:13] <sdrescher1> congrads Jan!!

[23:13] <Jan> continuation of test:

[23:13] <sdrescher1> what a name he has!!

[23:14] <Jan> Anglais-Francais

[23:14] <merantha> Jan, what site are you doing your test in?

[23:14] <Jan> merantha, in the site that JP mentioned above

[23:14] <Jean-Pierre> french one :-)

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[23:14] <Jan> input: the english translation that the program made

[23:14] <Jean-Pierre> because french always the best anyway!

[23:14] <Jean-Pierre> ;)

[23:14] <merantha> what is the url?

[23:14] <valorie> lol

[23:15] <Jan> _12 Can this program this sentence well translate?

[23:15] <Jan> result:

[23:15] <valorie> http://tr.voila.fr/

[23:15] <Jan> _12Ce programme que cela peut-il condamner bien traduit ?

[23:15] <Jan> note the double meaning of the word "Sentence"<gr>

[23:16] <Jan> next test: Input: the French translation the program made

[23:17] <Jan> output in English: _12This program what can it condemn translated well?

[23:17] <valorie> hahahahahah

[23:17] <sdrescher1> ouch!!

[23:17] <Jean-Pierre> yes Jan sometimes it's funny !

[23:17] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[23:17] <merantha> Looks like it is no better than Babelfish!

[23:17] <valorie> the best they can do is give you a clue

[23:17] * Jan sticks to his opinion on translation software

[23:18] <merantha> The funny part is, you have to know the language to know how funny it is.

[23:18] <Jean-Pierre> Jan my cousin thinks so too

[23:18] <Jean-Pierre> she is Professional in trtanslation

[23:19] <Jan> wonder what the program what do with a sentence like: things that fly: Duck <gr>

[23:19] <Maria> LOL

[23:19] <sdrescher1> LOL

[23:19] <Jan> many douyble meanings there

[23:19] <Jan> French translation: _12Choses cette mouche : Canard

[23:19] <Jean-Pierre> I remember some great talk between Suzan and Jean-Louis

[23:20] <Jean-Pierre> with help of the translator

[23:20] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[23:20] <sdrescher1> yup

[23:20] <Jean-Pierre> it was more than 1 year ago

[23:20] <Jean-Pierre> on www.daeschler.com Chat

[23:20] <Jean-Pierre> sometimes it can help

[23:20] <Jean-Pierre> ...

[23:21] <Jean-Pierre> :)

[23:21] <Jean-Pierre> like a Dictionnary!

[23:21] <Jean-Pierre> ;)à

[23:21] <Jean-Pierre> even wuith a dictionnary you can have Mistakes right?

[23:21] <valorie> yes -- I couldn't joke around with Dede without Babelfish, LOL

[23:21] <Jan> German translation: _12Sachen diese Fliege: Ente

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[23:22] <Jean-Pierre> Hallo Casi!

[23:23] <Casi> salut

[23:23] <Jean-Pierre> How are you???

[23:23] <valorie> hi, Casi

[23:23] <Casi> very well, thanks

[23:24] <sdrescher1> hi Casi

[23:24] <Casi> and? how are the things?

[23:24] <merantha> HI Casi

[23:24] <Jan> hehe

[23:24] <Jan> tried another 'catchy'line

[23:24] <Jan> In March the major and general march with privates

[23:25] <Dan> lol

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[23:25] <Jean-Pierre> Casi we are trying some translation Internet software

[23:25] <Jean-Pierre> oups

[23:25] <Jean-Pierre> :)

[23:26] <Dan> sorry I just read the translations...

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[23:27] <Jean-Pierre> Dan tu connais de bons traducteurs?

[23:27] <Jean-Pierre> Hallo dede!

[23:27] <Dan> and didn't see I was a bit late

[23:27] <DEDE> nabend

[23:27] <Dan> hallo Dede !!

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[23:27] <valorie> Dede, long time, no see!

[23:27] <DEDE> wie geht es euch ?

[23:27] <sdrescher1> hallo dede!!

[23:28] <DEDE> jä jä Val :-)

[23:28] <valorie> :-)

[23:28] <DEDE> hallo Suzan

[23:28] <merantha> Hi DEDE

[23:28] <DEDE> Hi Merantha

[23:29] <DEDE> hat es bei euch auch geschneit ?

[23:29] <Jan> ja, vor einige Monaten

[23:29] <sdrescher1> Dede i was going to send u a postcard from Wash DC

[23:29] <Maria> JP try this URL http://www.tranexp.com:2000/InterTran?

[23:29] <valorie> oh, poor Dede hates snow!

[23:29] <DEDE> Jan :-)

[23:30] <sdrescher1> but didn't want your wife to get mad!!

[23:30] <DEDE> wir hatten heute morgen 20 cm Schnee

[23:30] <DEDE> ist aber wieder weggetaut

[23:31] <DEDE> was Suzan ?

[23:31] <DEDE> mom translator

[23:31] <sdrescher1> jan please translate

[23:31] <sdrescher1> or JP

[23:32] <valorie> that's an interesting translator

[23:32] <Jan> translate what?

[23:32] <valorie> but what is weggetaut?

[23:32] <DEDE> Gleichstrom ?

[23:32] <sdrescher1> what i said to ded about a postcard

[23:32] <Jan> thawed away

[23:33] <DEDE> Postkarte vom Gleichstrom ?

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[23:33] <DEDE> Willkommen im Alsace-Chat

[23:33] <Jean-Pierre> we had today tomorrow cm snow

[23:33] <Jean-Pierre> Hallo DerAlte!

[23:33] <DerAlte> halloechen

[23:33] <DEDE> ich glaube der Translatot spinnt

[23:33] <Jean-Pierre> ( made by translator)

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[23:33] <DEDE> Hi Alter

[23:33] <DEDE> Willkommen im Alsace-Chat

[23:33] <Jean-Pierre> hello Oesterreicher!

[23:33] <Maria> jp !!

[23:33] <sdrescher1> Hallo Alter

[23:33] <Oesterreicher> hi

[23:33] <Jean-Pierre> Willkommen liebe Freunde!

[23:33] <DEDE> Hi Österreicher :-)

[23:33] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[23:33] <Maria> DID YOU see that URL I sent you????

[23:34] <DerAlte> dede: jetzt hast du heide sicherlich vergraelt. solch einen spass sollte sie eigentlich vertragen koennen

[23:34] <Jean-Pierre> Maria yes )

[23:34] <Maria> ok

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[23:34] <DEDE> ist sie weg ?

[23:34] <DerAlte> jau dede

[23:35] <Jan> ok, ich verabschiede mich. Muß Morgen wieder arbeiten :(

[23:35] <DEDE> dann kann ich ja wieder auch in den anderen chat :-)

[23:35] <Jean-Pierre> bye Jan!

[23:35] <sdrescher1> good nite jan

[23:35] <Jean-Pierre> Gute Night!

[23:35] <Jan> :)

[23:35] <Jean-Pierre> :)

[23:35] <DEDE> Nacht jan

[23:35] <Jan> good nuit to u 2

[23:35] <Oesterreicher> n8

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[23:36] <Dan> DEDE, I just integrate datas in LAMPERTSLOCH and BETSCHDORF

[23:36] <Jean-Pierre> auf Deutch Dan!

[23:36] <DEDE> Dan bitte deutsch

[23:37] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[23:37] <Dan> ach !!

[23:37] <Dan> ;-))

[23:37] <DEDE> neue Namen ?

[23:37] <Dan> ja, ich kann es denken

[23:37] <Dan> Maria and Merantha, do you understand german ?

[23:38] <DEDE> Ok SDan, die hole ich mir nachher :-)

[23:38] <merantha> A little bit Dan.

[23:39] <merantha> I have my dictionary!

[23:39] <merantha> Just don't talk too fast!

[23:40] <Dan> me too...

[23:40] <Dan> my german is a bit far away...

[23:40] * DerAlte wuenscht alen ein schoenes wochenende

[23:40] <Dan> but I speak alsatian, that helps me

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[23:41] <sdrescher1> can u explain tha Alsatian dialect dan?

[23:42] <Maria> Dan, I am back was setting of floor going over some very important genealogy papers LOL

[23:42] <Maria> no don't understand German

[23:43] <Maria> I have a book I lookup a few words.

[23:44] <merantha> Last spring I bought some pottery in Betschdorf.

[23:44] <merantha> The shopkeeper only spoke Alsatian.

[23:44] <Dan> so can we do both translations - JP and DEDE, what do you think about ?

[23:44] <merantha> With the very little English she know

[23:45] <Maria> What is difference between Alsatian and French??

[23:45] <merantha> and the very little French & German I knew,

[23:45] <sdrescher1> i'd love to hear it

[23:45] <merantha> we were able to communicate.

[23:45] <Dan> oh well Merantha, when did you went there ?

[23:45] <Dan> oh Merantha, wenn warst du in Elsass ?

[23:45] <merantha> Last March.

[23:46] <Dan> in Marz

[23:46] <Dan> last year...

[23:46] <Dan> that's my "home" area

[23:47] <merantha> I was visiting my daughter in Germany.

[23:47] <Jean-Pierre> where in germany?

[23:47] <merantha> She took me to Strasbourg, and loaned me her car, and left me there for a week to do research.

[23:47] <Jean-Pierre> cool

[23:48] <merantha> She lived in Alsenborn-Elsenbach (not sure of spelling)

[23:48] <Dan> Maria - Alsatian is a german dialect

[23:49] <Dan> and french is a latin language

[23:49] <merantha> Her husband is in US Air Force, stationed at Sembach.

[23:50] <merantha> I have read that English is in the Germanic language family.

[23:50] <Dan> yes Merantha

[23:50] <merantha> Have also read that English is 60% Franch.

[23:50] <Jean-Pierre> yes saxon

[23:50] <Jean-Pierre> origin

[23:51] <Dan> there is a book you can learn english with alsatian...

[23:51] <Jean-Pierre> easiest for german to speak english

[23:51] <Dan> an example :

[23:51] <Dan> ledder=ladder

[23:51] <Dan> = échelle (in frecnh)

[23:52] <Jean-Pierre> yep

[23:52] <merantha> While were there my husband could not understand any German,

[23:52] <Maria> Dan, thank you

[23:52] <merantha> but understood quite a bit of French.

[23:52] <Jean-Pierre> accent can be terrible :(

[23:52] <merantha> He has not studied either language.

[23:53] <sdrescher1> do many people from alsace still speak alsatian?

[23:55] <merantha> I have studied a little of German and French, but could not

[23:55] <merantha> understand a word of the spoken French. I could understand

[23:55] <Jean-Pierre> advertising :http://www.alovelyworld.com/webfranc/htmfr/stras.htm

[23:55] <merantha> quite a bit of spoken German.

[23:55] <Jean-Pierre> the web page of my Boss:)

[23:55] <merantha> But I don't try to speak either!

[23:55] <sdrescher1> we used to hum my french teacher to sleep!!

[23:55] <Jean-Pierre> advertising : http://www.alovelyworld.com/webfranc/htmfr/stras.htm

[23:56] <Jean-Pierre> www.alovelyworld.com

[23:57] <sdrescher1> she was very old

[23:57] <sdrescher1> and we were very bad!!

[23:57] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[23:57] <Jean-Pierre> it was the same for me in english!

[23:57] <sdrescher1> she quit teaching after our class

[23:57] <Jean-Pierre> my english teacher wanted me to forgive English !

[23:57] <Jean-Pierre> lol

[23:58] <Jean-Pierre> was the last of the Class!

[23:58] <Jean-Pierre> room

[23:58] <Jean-Pierre> :-)

[23:58] <sdrescher1> she wuld turn to the blackboard and

[23:58] <sdrescher1> spit balls would outline her body!!

[23:59] <merantha> Oh suzan, you were very bad!

[23:59] <merantha> But you learned well!

[23:59] <sdrescher1> we would staple her long necklaces to her desk

[23:59] <sdrescher1> when she fell asleep

[23:59] <sdrescher1> drom us humming

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